tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6851578517872251953.post7627830260741714037..comments2023-10-10T05:07:13.577-07:00Comments on En Tequila Es Verdad: Progress Report: Look, It May Not be Much, but It's ProgressDana Hunterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00890312745525306991noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6851578517872251953.post-56394467775379572892008-11-17T16:37:00.000-08:002008-11-17T16:37:00.000-08:00There's the weird corner of Christian thought call...There's the weird corner of Christian thought called presuppositionalism, which is quite the ridiculous can of worms:<BR/>http://www.vantil.info/bycategory.html<BR/><BR/>If you ever do run into one of these characters, the discussion usually runs a bit like that scene in Austin Powers when Dr. Evil keeps intstantly cutting his son off with "Zip it!" and other ways of saying "shut up." They tend to refuse to listen to any argument *at all* until the non-believer can meet their demand to explain how knowledge is possible without the Christian God. It's very weird, though not all that common.<BR/><BR/>Switching topics, I've had Christians say things like, "what about all the archaeology that corroborates the Bible? Of course the archaeology doesn't corroborate the Bible, unless say, the 2 million people the Bible had wandering around the desert for 40 years were some how able to do so without leaving behind so much as a coprolite. It is a bit inconvenient that Tyre exists to this day, contrary to Biblical pronouncement. The mere fact that cities the Bible mentions actually did, or still exist is easily dispensed with by a quip I picked up from somewhere: Does the fact that London exists mean that Sherlock Holmes was a real person?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6851578517872251953.post-46140950369957725022008-11-17T12:33:00.000-08:002008-11-17T12:33:00.000-08:00Using this "logic" is the fastest way to show us y...<I>Using this "logic" is the fastest way to show us you're someone we can't take seriously.</I><BR/><BR/>This is probably the best illustration of the difference between us and them. They believe this stuff, therefore, it's enough to prove them right. We don't believe it, because we see no independent validation. They can't understand that. Of course, there are Christians who are smart enough to understand this, but I'm seldom arguing with them.Cujo359https://www.blogger.com/profile/10385213658828021737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6851578517872251953.post-53760425677452349792008-11-17T12:30:00.000-08:002008-11-17T12:30:00.000-08:00the false authority fallacyI don't remember having...<I>the false authority fallacy</I><BR/><BR/>I don't remember having heard this called a "false authority" fallacy. Generally, it's either been called <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_authority" REL="nofollow">appeal to authority</A> or argument from authority. You, or whoever you are quoting, are an authority, this type of argument claims, so no other evidence is necessary.<BR/><BR/>Wikipedia, the authority on all things, says so. Therefore I must be right, and you'll need to do an edit later...Cujo359https://www.blogger.com/profile/10385213658828021737noreply@blogger.com