tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6851578517872251953.post61045003031416463..comments2023-10-10T05:07:13.577-07:00Comments on En Tequila Es Verdad: When Persuasion Doesn't Work, Try Threats, Eh?Dana Hunterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00890312745525306991noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6851578517872251953.post-81526804290333424422008-07-30T21:28:00.000-07:002008-07-30T21:28:00.000-07:00"Every single proselytizer I've spoken to has come..."Every single proselytizer I've spoken to has come down to the same thing in the end: threats."<BR/><BR/>Its funny how anytime you ask them "why doesn't God just make me believe?" the answer is an emphatic "freewill". But it seems to me that the threats are designed to remove free-will: "You don't want to live an eternity in torment, do you?"Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14540123754057949203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6851578517872251953.post-55097198260069262832008-07-29T17:58:00.000-07:002008-07-29T17:58:00.000-07:00Oh, and regarding Christmas carol rewriting, this ...Oh, and regarding Christmas carol rewriting, <A HREF="http://woozalia.com/Real_Myth" REL="nofollow">this</A> seems somewhat relevant:<BR/><BR/>All my little faithful sheep<BR/>Just close your minds and stay asleep<BR/>You don't need to know the truth<BR/>Just believe<BR/><BR/>Just like little girls and boys<BR/>Fighting with their little toys<BR/>The winner gets to tell everyone<BR/>What to believe<BR/><BR/>So they won't be alone<BR/>So they won't be alone<BR/>It's real myth<BR/>Yes it's really really real<BR/>It's a real myth<BR/>It's really really real<BR/><BR/>If you trust in God then you'll know<BR/>Exactly how your life will go<BR/>You'll be rich with magic ponies<BR/>If you believe<BR/><BR/>So you won't be afraid<BR/>So you won't be afraid<BR/>It's real myth<BR/>It's really really real<BR/>It's a real myth<BR/>It's really really real<BR/><BR/>If the cracker really is God<BR/>The death threats don't seem quite so odd<BR/>Human lives are less important<BR/>Than what you believe<BR/><BR/>So they won't have to think<BR/>So they won't have to think<BR/>It's real myth<BR/>It's really really real<BR/>Yes the real myth<BR/>It's really really real<BR/><BR/><I>(Well hey, John is one of <B>my</B> saints... sort of... well, not really, but he did some amazing things in life and is now dead -- does that count?)</I>Woozlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17948248776908775080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6851578517872251953.post-22551336123150861312008-07-29T12:56:00.000-07:002008-07-29T12:56:00.000-07:00When I first read that posting, I so wanted to wri...When I first read that posting, I <I>so</I> wanted to write my own pamphlet right there and then. Stupid life with its stupid lack of time. (They never warned me that God's retribution could take the form of schedule clutter. Can I trade my current life for a little straightforward hell and damnation please?)<BR/><BR/>I did come up with another idea, and started to put it here -- but then I saw your next post, and decided it was more appropriate for an open thread. So, onward to the next post...Woozlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17948248776908775080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6851578517872251953.post-28942380505050942172008-07-29T05:14:00.000-07:002008-07-29T05:14:00.000-07:00I counted 13 what-ifs. Assuming each what-if divi...I counted 13 what-ifs. Assuming each what-if divides the probability of their desired outcome by 2 (the divisor is probably considerably larger in each case) then at best the probability that they've nailed the combination is no better than 2^-13. (Corrections welcome from the more mathematically astute - I want to get this particular zinger right)<BR/><BR/>Compare that probability to the question; "What if the Calvary Bible Church is completely full of crap?" Which should be something like the inverse of the previous probability.george.whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10893495384863805805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6851578517872251953.post-14355207747502931722008-07-29T03:40:00.000-07:002008-07-29T03:40:00.000-07:00"If you have to resort to threats to get people to..."If you have to resort to threats to get people to convert, your religion's got some serious issues."<BR/><BR/>Amen! That's why the church I once belonged to is losing members at an alarming rate. Even members got a weekly dose of "do [fill in the blank] or you'll go to hell." <BR/><BR/>Ragh.Nicolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12268407996242055175noreply@blogger.com